I am sorry to learn of this and wish Jonathan a quick recovery. As a fan, very disappointed in not being able to meet one of my favorite creators; as a fellow human I wish neither ills or illnesses upon anyone.
That stated...I am extraordinarily displeased with 3W3M. I tried to find a means to send a private note; found nothing. At risk o…
I am sorry to learn of this and wish Jonathan a quick recovery. As a fan, very disappointed in not being able to meet one of my favorite creators; as a fellow human I wish neither ills or illnesses upon anyone.
That stated...I am extraordinarily displeased with 3W3M. I tried to find a means to send a private note; found nothing. At risk of airing dirty laundry or coming off as entitled or sour graping, I'll post my grievance here.
With respect to C2E2...and I realize risks and uncertainty at play...based on the 3/18/2022 email promoting C2E2, I bought my ticket. Not knowing what day(s) 3W3M would be doing anything, it was a 3 day ticket. And then the hotel block. I'm now paying or about to pay $1,500 for C2E2 plus 12 hours of total driving and more money for parking and food. In all, spending $2,000 or more. I had zero other interest in anything C2E2 other than 3W3M and the associated ashcan, lithographs, book signing and possible sketch/doodle opportunity. I could cancel the room booking and save that money and my time, but I'm still out the few hundred dollars in ticket. The family says I should go anyway...but, it is disappointing and I regret the expenditures and inconveniences for something now not happening.
Add to that the lack of many Founder benefits. Nearly 1 year into this and we have had minimal benefits that equate to $250.00 for the subscription. Live events have been sparse. I have no idea of any monthly Founder meetings ever having occurred. I do not recall getting the deluxe ashcan, signed print, collector card, pin/coin, or any materials. Special offers and discounts...to what? Nothing has been offered. Some other Substacks have variant covers or signature opportunities...a store...3W3M - nothing. Eventually I guess the Systems book will ship, possibly with the other stuff...but, being honest - that's a $250 (+ $C2E2 money) book and is a lot to pay for the 1 thing (versus a non-Founder level subscription where the works can still be enjoyed).
I respect Jonathan and Mike and Mike and Jason and all the other 3W3M creative forces. I've appreciated the creative muscles they've flexed and the work produced. However, being honest here - the money paid for the promoted benefit of Founder has failed to materialize; this entire experience has been underwhelming, and now with C2E2's VIP cancellation, more than irritating.
I'll be interested in the 8/1/2022 email's offered "alternative activities for our founders...", but the 3W3M track record on this front has been sparse; I am cynically expecting very little.
My apologies for airing the grievance. I do very sincerely wish Jonathan a fast recovery; ultimately that's the most important outcome from this.
Hi Bill- you are receiving a 200-page deluxe signed hardcover, the 32-page [Foundations] Comic (also signed), 2 prints (also signed), and a collector card. We just posted an update on all of the above just today- these items are shipping to you later this month, and we think that's a substantial reward offering by any standard. We also extended everyone's subscription for an additional month, free of charge, so that they would have all of these offerings before their subscriptions ended.
We sympathize with your frustration, but COVID-19 is simply a reality of the world right now and upends planned events all the time. No one is more disappointed than us, obviously, but health and safety have to come first. Appreciate your understanding.
I am sorry to learn of this and wish Jonathan a quick recovery. As a fan, very disappointed in not being able to meet one of my favorite creators; as a fellow human I wish neither ills or illnesses upon anyone.
That stated...I am extraordinarily displeased with 3W3M. I tried to find a means to send a private note; found nothing. At risk of airing dirty laundry or coming off as entitled or sour graping, I'll post my grievance here.
With respect to C2E2...and I realize risks and uncertainty at play...based on the 3/18/2022 email promoting C2E2, I bought my ticket. Not knowing what day(s) 3W3M would be doing anything, it was a 3 day ticket. And then the hotel block. I'm now paying or about to pay $1,500 for C2E2 plus 12 hours of total driving and more money for parking and food. In all, spending $2,000 or more. I had zero other interest in anything C2E2 other than 3W3M and the associated ashcan, lithographs, book signing and possible sketch/doodle opportunity. I could cancel the room booking and save that money and my time, but I'm still out the few hundred dollars in ticket. The family says I should go anyway...but, it is disappointing and I regret the expenditures and inconveniences for something now not happening.
Add to that the lack of many Founder benefits. Nearly 1 year into this and we have had minimal benefits that equate to $250.00 for the subscription. Live events have been sparse. I have no idea of any monthly Founder meetings ever having occurred. I do not recall getting the deluxe ashcan, signed print, collector card, pin/coin, or any materials. Special offers and discounts...to what? Nothing has been offered. Some other Substacks have variant covers or signature opportunities...a store...3W3M - nothing. Eventually I guess the Systems book will ship, possibly with the other stuff...but, being honest - that's a $250 (+ $C2E2 money) book and is a lot to pay for the 1 thing (versus a non-Founder level subscription where the works can still be enjoyed).
I respect Jonathan and Mike and Mike and Jason and all the other 3W3M creative forces. I've appreciated the creative muscles they've flexed and the work produced. However, being honest here - the money paid for the promoted benefit of Founder has failed to materialize; this entire experience has been underwhelming, and now with C2E2's VIP cancellation, more than irritating.
I'll be interested in the 8/1/2022 email's offered "alternative activities for our founders...", but the 3W3M track record on this front has been sparse; I am cynically expecting very little.
My apologies for airing the grievance. I do very sincerely wish Jonathan a fast recovery; ultimately that's the most important outcome from this.
Regards, Bill
Hi Bill- you are receiving a 200-page deluxe signed hardcover, the 32-page [Foundations] Comic (also signed), 2 prints (also signed), and a collector card. We just posted an update on all of the above just today- these items are shipping to you later this month, and we think that's a substantial reward offering by any standard. We also extended everyone's subscription for an additional month, free of charge, so that they would have all of these offerings before their subscriptions ended.
We sympathize with your frustration, but COVID-19 is simply a reality of the world right now and upends planned events all the time. No one is more disappointed than us, obviously, but health and safety have to come first. Appreciate your understanding.
Thanks Bill! Finally another voice of sanity